Christians Voting For Obama
A while back I asked you all who was planning on not voting. I got a whole bunch of answers ranging from folks not planning on voting, to people claiming it was un-American to not vote, to, what I consider the best answer, from Amy explaining that not only did people fight for our right to vote, they also fought for our right to not vote. Now, here’s the thing. I do not plan on voting, and here’s why. It’s simple. I’m not registered in Tennessee to vote. Pretty easy right? Here’s the thing though, I don’t think I would vote even if I could. Maybe that makes me un-American or something, but I don’t see a good choice so I am opting out.
That being said I would like to know something from the Christians that are die-hard voting for Obama. I’ve tried to follow the different views of Obama and McCain and honestly, like every other presidential race, whoever I am listening to sounds like they are saying what I want to hear. Guys running for President are good at that I suppose. But there is one thing that has stuck out more than once to me and I haven’t really heard a clear answer about it. I’d like to know what Obama’s stance is on abortion and how that affects the Christian voter.
Historically, it’s seemed like the Christians have typically voted for the guy who has killed the least amount of babies. Is that happening this time around? Or has it become too cool to jump on board with Don Miller and other “forward thinking” Christians and simply overlook that tiny detail? Again, it seems like every time I have looked into it it’s a pretty blurred area. I still don’t really know Obama’s stance and when I find that out I’d like to know the Christian voters thoughts. Carlos, I want to hear from you on this one.
Ready? Go.
i’m just saying (found online):
“To Barack Obama,
The New York Times carried a story on Saturday, October 4, 2008, that proved you had a significantly closer relationship with Bill Ayers than what you previously admitted. While the issue of your relationship is of concern, the greater concern is that you lied to America about it.
The Chicago Sun reported on May 8, 2008, that FBI records showed that you had a significantly closer relationship with Tony Rezko than what you previously admitted. In the interview, you said that you only saw Mr. Rezko a couple of times a year. The FBI files showed that you saw him weekly. While the issue of your relationship is of concern, the greater concern is that you lied to America about it.
Your speech in Philadelphia on March 18, 2008, about “race” contradicted your statement to Anderson Cooper on March 14 when you said that you never heard Reverend Wright make his negative statements about white America . While your attendance at Trinity Church for 20 years is of concern, the greater concern is that you lied to America on March 14.
In your 1st debate with John McCain, you said that you never said that you would meet with the leaders of Cuba, Venezuela , Iran , and North Korea without “preparations” at lower levels…. Joe Biden repeated your words in his debate with Sarah Palin … while the video tape from your debate last February clearly shows that you answered “I would” to the question of meeting with those leaders within 12 months without “any” preconditions. While your judgment about meeting with enemies of the USA without pre-conditions is of concern, the greater concern is that you lied to America in the debate with McCain.
On July 14, 2008, you said that you always knew that the surge would work while the video tapes of you from more than a year ago show that you stated that the surge would not work. While your judgement about military strategy as a potential commander-in-chief is of concern, the greater concern is that you lied to America on July 14.
You now claim that your reason for voting against funding for the troops was because the bill did not include a time line for withdrawal, while the video tapes of you from more than a year ago show that you voted against additional funding because you wanted our troops to be removed immediately … not in 16 months after the 2008 election as you now claim. While your judgment about removing our troops unilaterally in 2007 is of concern, the greater concern is that you lied to America about your previous position.
You claim to have a record of working with Republicans while the record shows that the only bill that you sponsored with a Republican was with Chuck Lugar … and it failed. The record shows that you vote 97% in concert with the Democratic party and that you have the most liberal voting record in the Senate. You joined Republicans only 13% of the time in your votes and those 13% were only after agreement from the Democrat party. While it is of concern that you fail to include conservatives in your actions and that you are such a liberal, the greater concern is that you distorted the truth.
In the primary debates of last February, 2008, you claimed to have talked with a “Captain” of a platoon in Afghanistan “the other day”, when in fact you had a discussion in 2003 with a Lieutenant who had just been deployed to Afghanistan . You lied in that debate.
In your debates last spring, you claimed to have been a “professor of Constitutional law” when in fact you have never been a professor of Constitutional law. In this last debate, you were careful to say that you “taught a law class” and never mentioned being a “professor of Constitutional law.” You lied last spring.
You and Joe Biden both claimed that John McCain voted against additional funding for our troops when the actual records show the opposite. You continually distorted the truth.
You and Joe Biden claim that John McCain voted against funding for alternate energy sources 20 times when the record shows that John McCain specifically voted against funding for bio fuels, especially corn … and he was right … corn is too expensive at producing ethanol, and using corn to make ethanol increased the price of corn from $2 a bushel to $6 a bushel for food. You again distorted the truth.
You and Joe Biden claim that John McCain voted like both of you for a tax increase on those making as little as $42,000 per year while the voting record clearly shows that John McCain did NOT vote as you and Joe Biden. You lied to America . Again.
You and Joe Biden claim that John McCain voted with George W. Bush 90% of the time when you know that Democrats also vote 90% of the time with the President (including Joe Biden) because the vast majority of the votes are procedural. You are one of the few who has not voted 90% of the time with the president because you have been missing from the Senate whenever it was time to vote, since the day you got elected. While your absence from your job in the Senate is of concern, the greater concern is that you spin the facts.
You did NOT take an active role in the rescue plan. You claimed that the Senate did not need you while the real reason that you abstained was because of your close relationships with the executives of Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Countrywide, and ACORN … who ALL helped cause the financial problems of today … and they all made major contributions to your campaign. While your relationship with these executives and your protection of them for your brief 3 years in the Senate (along with Barney Frank, Chuck Schumer, Maxine Waters, and Chris Dodd) is of concern, the greater concern is that you are being deceitful.
You forgot to mention that you personally represented Tony Rezko and ACORN. Tony Rezko, an Arab and close friend to you, was convicted of fraud in Chicago real estate transactions that bilked millions of tax dollars from the Illinois government for renovation projects that you sponsored as a state senator … and ACORN has been convicted of voter fraud, real estate sub-prime loan intimidation, and illegal campaign contributions. Tony Rezko has contributed hundreds of thousands of dollars to your political campaigns. You personally used your political positions to steer money to both Tony Rezko and ACORN and you used ACORN to register thousands of phony voters for Democrats and you. While your relationships with Rezko and ACORN are of GREAT concern, the greater concern is that you omitted important Facts, INTENTIONALLY, about your relationships with them to America .
During your campaign, you said: “typical white person.” “They cling to their guns and religion.” “They will say that I am black.” You played the race card. You tried to label any criticism about you as racist. You divide America .
You claim that you will reduce taxes for 95% of America , but you forgot to tell America that those reductions re after you remove the Bush tax reductions. You have requested close to $1 BILLION in earmarks and several million for ACORN. Your social programs will cost America $1 TRILLION per year! And you claim that a reduction in military spending ($100 billion for Iraq ) can pay for it. While your economic plan of adding 30% to the size of our federal government is of great concern, the greater concern is that you are KNOWINGLY deceiving
America .
The drain to America ‘s economy by foreign supplied oil is $700 billion per year (5% of GDP) while the war in Iraq is $100 billion (less than 1% of GDP). You voted against any increases to oil exploration for the last 3 years and any expansion of nuclear facilities. Yet today, you say that you have always been for more oil and more nuclear. You are lying to America again and AGAIN.
Mr. Obama, you claimed that you “changed” your mind about public financing for your campaign because of the money spent by Republican PACs in 2004. The truth is that the Democratic PACs in 2004, 2006, and 2008 spent twice as much as the Republican PACs (especially George Soros and MoveOn.org). You are lying to America .
Mr. Obama, you have done nothing to stop the actions of the teachers’ unions and college professors in the USA. They eliminated religion from our history. They teach pro-gay agendas and discuss sex with students as young as first grade. They bring their personal politics into the classrooms. They disparage conservatives. They brainwash our children. They are in it for themselves ….. not America Are you reluctant to condemn their actions because teachers/professors and the NEA contribute 25% of all money donated to Democrats and none to Republicans? You are deceiving America .
Oh, Mr. Obama, Teddy Roosevelt said about a hundred years ago that we Americans should first look at the character of our leaders before anything else. YOUR character looks horrible. While you make good speeches, motivating speeches, your character does not match your rhetoric. You talk the talk, but do NOT walk the walk.
1. You lied to America . You lied many times. You distorted facts. You parsed your answers like a lawyer.
2. You distorted the record of John McCain in your words and in your nasty, negative advertisements.
3. You had associations with some very bad people for your personal political gains and then lied about those associations.
4. You divide America about race and about class.
Now let me compare your record of lies, distortions, race baiting, and associations to John McCain:
War hero. Annapolis graduate with “Country first.” Operational leadership experience like all 43 previously elected presidents of the USA (as a Navy officer for 22 years.)
26 years in the Senate.
Straight talk.
Maverick.
54% of the time participated on bills with Democrats.
Never asked for an earmark.
The only blemish on his record is his part in the Keating 5 debacle about 25 years ago.
Mr. Obama, at Harvard Law School , you learned that the end does not justify the means. You learned that perjury, false witness, dishonesty, distortion of truth are never tolerated.
Yet, your dishonesty is overwhelming. Your dishonesty is tremendously greater than the dishonesty that caused the impeachment and disbarment of Bill Clinton. Your dishonesty is
tremendously greater than the dishonesty of Scooter Libby. You should be ashamed.
Mr. Obama, it is time for us Americans to put aside our differences on political issues and vote against you because of your dishonest character. It is time for all of us Americans to put aside our political issues and vote for America FIRST.
It is time for America to vote for honesty.
Any people who vote for you after understanding that you are dishonest should be ashamed of themselves for making their personal political issues more important than character. Would these same people vote for the anti-Christ if the anti-Christ promised them riches? Would they make a golden calf while Moses was up the mountain? Would they hire someone for a job if that someone lied in an interview? Of course not.
So why do some of these people justify their votes for you even though they know you are dishonest? Why do they excuse your dishonesty?
Because some of these people are frightened about the future, the economy, and their financial security …. and you are preying on their fears with empty promises …. and because some (especially our young people) are consumed by your wonderful style and promises for “change”, like the Germans who voted for Adolf Hitler in 1932. The greed/envy by Germans in 1932 kept them from recognizing Hitler for who he was. They loved his style. Greed and envy are keeping many Americans from recognizing you … your style has camouflaged your dishonesty …but many of us see you for who you really are … and we will not stop exposing who you are every day, forever if it is necessary.
Mr. Obama, you are dishonest. Anyone who votes for you is enabling dishonesty.
Mr. Obama , America cannot trust that you will put America first in your decisions about the future.
Mr. Obama, you are not the “change” that America deserves. We cannot trust you.
Mr. Obama, You are not ready and not fit to be commander-in-chief.
Mr. Obama, John McCain does not have as much money as your campaign to refute all of your false statements. And for whatever reasons, the MainStream Media will not give adequate coverage or research about your lies, distortions, word parsing, bad associations, race baiting, lack of operational leadership experience, and generally dishonest character. The media is diverting our attention from your relationships and ignoring the fact that you lied about those relationships. The fact that you lied is much more important than the relationships themselves …. just like with Bill Clinton and Richard Nixon … Monica Lewinski and Watergate were not nearly as bad as the fact that those men lied about the events … false witness … perjury … your relationships and bad judgements are bad on their own …. but your lies are even worse.
Therefore, by copy of this memo, all who read this memo are asked to send it to everyone else in America before it is too late. We need to do the job that the media will not do. We need to expose your dishonesty so that every person in America understands who you really are before election day.
Mr. Obama, in a democracy, we get what we deserve. And God help America if we deserve you.
Michael Master
McLean , Virginia”
Oh good lord!
I go through “To Barack”
Then i lost focus…
Oh good lord!
I got through “To Barack”
Then i lost focus…
Do you hear an echo
I’m voting for Senator Barack Obama (D) from Illinois.
I understand that no one will probably ever read my little ‘ole comment at the end of looong post. But, I wanted to make sure I stated a couple things:
1) People need to realize that we are ONE JUSTICE away from abortion being made illegal. Justices on the Supreme Court are the one’s who can overturn Roe vs. Wade. Bush did a great job at appointing 2 pro-life justices. One more and we have a majority. The two eldest justices are pro-choice and are sure to be replaced by the next presidential candidate. This election is very crucial! If Obama is elected…he will surely appoint pro-choice justices. And it could be the beginning of the end in our fight for pro-life!
2) For all Christians who have the nerve in them to vote for Obama…a man who has mocked Christianity, who supports the killing of babies and calls it CHOICE, and who is chiming the word CHANGE like he is something different then every other liberal democrat…I don’t understand your conscience and how you can be right with God. Please…don’t jump on the bandwagon. Pray and seek God’s word on the issues Obama supports.
Cassidy-
Please don’t question my relationship with God because I am choosing to vote for a candidate that you don’t see eye to eye with.
you really have 107 COMMENTS on this one?!
um…. 108!
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I worked on the McCain campaign…but not because I’m a Christian or because it’s the “Christian” way to vote. I wanted to be cool and vote for Obama but I only wanted to vote for him because he’s half-black.
Well, there is only one Christian running for President, and that;s Barack Obama. My family had a good discussion about this the other night, and we all agreed we cannot vote for Romney, in large part because he is not a Christian, although we also do not like his wall street ties and his somewhat ruthless business past, where profits were paramount over any thing else, including the welfare of American workers. I know so many politicians seem to have problems with the truth, but I have been following Romney and he seems to lie like breathing.